I enjoyed this podcast interview with Brett Wilson on

Mountain Zen Den

He’s West in the Rockies, I’m East in the Blue Ridge near the Smokies.  We may have slightly different worldviews or perspectives on some things, yet I think we meet on some trails of thought, in our love for Nature.

Drawing from my books and years as a chaplain, Brett and I discuss John Muir, the meaning of words like “spiritual” and “prayer,” being “present” in nature, deep listening, the concept of “eye to eye,” wildness, wildlife, diversity in the “forest of faith” and much more.

You’re invited to listen and I hope you enjoy the hour of conversation.